He doesnât have the Mic skills that Cena did. I think if Ambrose looked like he does now and was booked well he could have been the face of the company. That said Lesner has killed everyone who could have been face of the company.
Ambrose should have been the money maker in the Shield. Reigns and Rollins arent as good at talking. If he was ever allowed to be serious in WWE he would have blown up big time.
Hey that is fair, I was following from a distance when The Shield debuted and not having seen the indies or NXT to that point I thought on first impressions alone that Ambrose was the most complete wrestler.
I didnât follow ROH, had no idea about most indie promotions like, CZW. where I would have had exposure to any of the three.
I thought Rollins with his skunk striped hair looked like a bit of a tool but his quick moving offence put him above Reigns who I found to be the big slow enforcer of the team and that has never been my favorite gimmick in the stable.
I totally agree that when it came to the WWEâs main event, Ambrose didnât check the boxes that Vince tends to covet. He was small, he was messy, he looked a bit whacked out. .
I forgot about him because he has been hurt for so long and he is always booked so poorly. The man has champion written all over him and could have an amazing run with any title you give him. He can make a title meaningful, Iâd say hand him the IC title and make mid-carders chase him and that way you could uncover some face potential or create a new baby-face.
Not sure, he was injured since before the Draft, I think.
And it doesnât matter, as heâs so beat up theyâll never put a World title on him (seems to me he is nursing injury every other month. Makes me wonder how many days will they add to his contract one day). He also had the IC or the US title around Mania for a month or so. Suffice to say they did nothing with him. I love his promos, but when after his words heâs getting Bray Wyatted, I sorta lost interest in watching his programs. I love his promos, but it makes me sad for what follows.
Out of the three Shield members, he is the most talented in the ring. On the mic, I donât like any of them. Reigns is probably the easiest to deal with as he doesnât say much.
Itâs obvious they should turn him heel, the question is against who? Kevin Owens?
This is it. You really donât need to over think this.
A good actor can make garbage sound decent. Itâs not even a knock against Seth because itâs a talent that most donât have. Heâs being asked to do something heâs not great at.
I mean Natalie Portman in Star-wars might dispute your claim that a good actor can make anything sound good. Bad lines are bad lines no matter who reads them. It is a double whammy of him not being a great actor, and having crap for material.
The problem with Seth is he is a top guy who is afraid to be his own top guy. The writing sucks. The creative is bad. But name another top guy who didnât take the mantel and run with it their own way. Look no further than Roman Reigns as to what happens with a guy in that position doesnât do anything but what they are told. Becky Lynch ran her mouth everywhere to get her character over. Seth just reaks of corporate bullshit. And when he cuts promos it just comes out as corporate branded shit
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I think she gave up during those movies but maybe some writing is beyond saving
But I did say a good actor could make garbage sound ok. Calling the writing from episodes 1-3 garbage is probably being generous.
I strangely quite enjoyed him berating the roster last night. Maybe he could just do that now instead. He can come out every week and point out that Rowan isnât do anything of use or how Mcintyre just seems to wander in and out of other peopleâs angles for no reason.
Sethâs phrase also doesnât make any sense and doesnât punctuate a promo very well. Burn what down? How can you want to âburn it downâ while also claiming to be the company guy?
It does feel like it would work if he was a heel and his goal was to burn it down, âitâ in this case being whatever the status quo is for RawâŚ
So he is burning down Raw by taking apart people, destroying what is, and rebuilding it the way âheâ believes it should be. But I think the gimmick requires Bray Wyatt levels of acting chops to pull off and could be too close to The Field in execution.
âWhat?â makes sense. Though I think your point is overtime even if a fan doesnât understand the origin or context of a chant they seldom care as long as they can be part of it, and it is easy for them to be.
Austin used to say âWhat!?â during promos with Vince. Then the fans took it over and it became a way for fans to point out when a talent is doing a promo when extensive pauses between sentences.
I donât recall the origin of âYesâ but it has evolved to be a way for Bryan to get the fans behind him but Bryan also doesnât always get âYesâ chants going.
âBurn it downâ is simple but wasnât organic. There arenât many new babyfaces and/or heels that are getting catch phrases over on the main roster. The Usoâs had theirs but they are sitting at home riding out Jimmyâs punishment, and I am worried that WWE could wind up bringing them back with a crappy gimmick like their old face paint days.
NXT is a different beast: Velveteen Dream, Matt Riddle, The Undisputed Era (especially Adam Cole) they all have gotten their catch phrases over organically but then again NXT doesnât seem to require their talent force feed marketing phrases to fans in every promo.