If true, what a waste. Never got a significant singles run out of either guy. I don’t blame them at all. By this point (five years in) one or both should have been established singles stars. They’re in the same spot they were in 2019.
On another note, the AEW tag division is probably the worst it’s ever been right now. Having a solid tag roster was one of the things that set AEW apart but it’s now a total afterthought.
The Trios division did a number to it, and it adds to the idea of them having too many belts.
What I would have liked was a King of Trios style tournament from Chikara, where you bring in a bunch of trios from different companies, along with ones in your own company.
Collision recently has been doing a good job trying to establish teams, and MxM getting over pretty quickly is a good thing. I think that’s one thing that’s frustrating with Collision. It’s the B show, but they could use their time to highlight belts and divisions.
I think the Acclaimed have been better recently, but it feels like they should break up. This is another one of my complaints with the lack of the rankings. The rankings were also ways to keep track of who is winning and losing and get behind those people. Look at who can be ranked and give them matches.
I was really hopeful that when Sting/Darby won and then vacated the belts that that would be a reset point for the tag division but it didn’t really work out that way. They need to put whatever energy they put into the women’s division into the tag division now.
Honestly the Lucha Bros might as well leave. I’m pretty non-plussed whenever Death Triangle leave and come back because it seems like all they ever do in AEW really, is leave and come back. Also I can’t believe they kept Alex Abrahantes with them this long. They had such a cool factor stemming from Lucha Underground but god bless him, Abrahantes has big dork energy and I just never found him a good fit with them, cemented by the Bill and Ted Grim Reaper cosplay outfit he put on to somehow make Penta Dark scary.
There’s stuff that can be done with them but if AEW were inclined to do such things they’d have done them by now, they’ve had so much time. Move on to other toys you’re more excited about and let them go.
Fenix was injured most of the time. Any momentum he gathered was destroyed as soon as he went on the injury list again and again. They had alot memorable matches in the tag division. I think they did well and now something new benefits them alot and I see them coming back refreshed some day.
It’s been said countless times, it’s the sign of a healthy industry when talents can go back and forth. Especially mid-card acts, looking to mix things up.
I love the Lucha Bros, and would be happy if they stay. But, they’ve hit their ceiling for the moment. And that’s okay.
If they go, I’m sure they’ll get a big contract. Can’t see them being featured in a huge way as a team, but who knows. But like many others - who knows what they are after at this point in their career.
Stay in AEW, wrestle meaningless trios matches, and do singles jobs for guys they want to push. Or go to WWE and be the guys that do the most dangerous/spectacular spots in a multi-man that somebody else wins. And probably spend most of your time in an all-Latino angle.
Man, one of these companies needs to revive their tag division.
One of these companies hasn’t been great with tag teams in the past, while the other built part of its early success on a strong tag division but their tag division is currently…not so strong (I’m being nice, guys). I’m not so hopeful…
AEW loses more “day one” talent, WWE gets more AEW day-one talent (perception in the biz matters) and two spectacular performers to plug into whatever ladder match is next, and we might get a Rey vs Rey match (among some of the other lucha-riffic matches we could get (like Garza/Fenix)). I hope these guys get paid and used well (and far beyond the typical all-Latino angle they will inevitably be inserted into at some point) so they do even better when this rumored WWE run ends.
And, heck, put Fenix on Survivor Series and WWE will be getting too much of my money because I’m old, like work rate, and love WCW: War Games was something I loved as a kid (even the horrible Havoc 98 version with Warrior couldn’t take away my enjoyment of the concept that the Dangerous Alliance/93 War Games match gave me as a kid…) and Fenix is a performer, while oft-injured, I’ve wanted to see work in person.
Edit: it might be a two-person bandwagon, but I absolutely love @andrewisgood’s consistent mention of the rankings. We might be alone on this Andrew, but rankings are good and can work in wrestling.
Going from AEW where they didnt utilize them proper, to WWE where they more than likely wont utilize them proper and Penta cant even do half his moves.
I will join team rankings. I think the biggest argument against them is that it flusters a lot of people when they aren’t being strictly adhered to, but I never really had a problem with AEW’s implementation of them. It was just a loose framework that gave the divisions some sense of definition and the illusion that the titles are under constant active competition.
Here’s a good one. Depending on when their official start and end dates are, Lucha Bros were in AEW for as long or longer than WCW Nitro was on the air.
Nitro: Sept. 5, 1995 to March 26, 2001 (2,029 days)
Lucha Bros: Feb. 7, 2019 (AEW debut as contracted talent) to today (2,007 days)
In fairness, none of us actually know how successful AEW is. Is AEW entertaining? Yes of course, they have some of the best PPV’s and matches in the world, and are by leaps and bounds the #2 wrestling promotions in the world.
With that said, “success” is really defined by numbers, and as far as I know, we have no idea if AEW is netting hundreds of millions of dollars a year, or if they are bleeding money. I hope it’s the former.
I think fans younger than a certain age, and others that have only heard WWE’s version of history, think that “success” would mean being the #1 promotion in the U.S. But even if you don’t count the 40 years of Jim Crockett and the NWA, World Championship Wrestling was a national promotion from 1988-2001 and was #2 for all but maybe a year of that (depending on your metric. There is absolutely no shame in that.
For that matter, AEW will soon eclipse ECW (as a non-NWA promotion) in longevity. And ECW was going out of business for like the last three years its existence. Yet nobody considers it a failure.