Yeah I agree, Mike Tyson with Gus in the right state of mine would not lose to anybody that has ever lived.
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Anyone see this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur5F6gnK26k
Guy still has some serious issues, I canāt see how anyone can think that heās not capable of going off on someone if he snaps. Just jump to 3:13 to see what Iām talking about.
I just dont think he has the mental stability to be fighting for fun.
Here is George Foremans take:
Couple of thoughts here.
Tyson does not sniff anywhere near the top boxers or heavyweights of all time. He lost to all big names and most importantly, whenever he faced adversity in a fight, he crumbled. What he was though was the 2nd biggest star Heavyweight boxing had ever seen and there was a time where he was legitimately terrifying. Donāt get me wrong he had tremendous speed, head movement, power and ferocity but when we talk about all-time greats, heāll make the hall of fame of course but Iād put the following heavyweights ahead of him (not even thinking about other weight classes).
In no particular order:
Ali
Sonny Liston
Joe Frasier
Gorge Foreman
Lennox Lewis
Rocky Marciano
Tyson Fury
Evander Hollyfield
Riddick Bowe
Larry Holmes
Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Regarding the safety of MMA vs Boxing, the general thinking is MMA is safer for a few of reasons, 1 being thereās no mandatory 8 count, so if someone gets knocked down in MMA thereās no opportunity for them to ārecoverā and the ref is forced to step in. Also in boxing you canāt save yourself by clinching, the ref will separate you - see Conor vs Floyd. While highly unscientific, the death rate in Boxing is way higher than in MMA. The few MMA deaths that there have been have largely been attributed to weight cutting. Thatās something that is safer in boxing, more weight classes and less weight cutting.
Also on the headgear, the headgear probably makes it less safe not more. Headgear is more around preventing cuts then preventing damage. Even if headgear reduces damage that doesnāt necessarily make it safer. Is it better to take 3 shots or 6 shots before being concussed?
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Foreman said it himself. Itās very dangerous. The guys need to know and understand the risks theyāre taking. I donāt think anyone believes this is a zero risk scenario.
But at the end of the day are YOU gonna tell two grown men what they can and canāt do with their bodies? Itās possible these guys are facing some real economic hardships, and besides paid appearances and fighting, what discernible job skills has Roy Jones Jr. been developing over the past three decades? Sometimes guys just need to get paid.
I work next to a guy who is pushing 60 and has had lung issues. Weāre essential workers pushing through the pandemic. Heās well aware that in an ideal world he would just spend 2020 hiding away so as not to risk contracting COVID and we could find someone to replace him temporarily. But heās got a new car to pay for and a mortgage payment among other things so he comes into work every day despite the risks involved. For better or worse, sometimes other factors take precedence for people over the risks involved in a job.
No, of course not. I donāt like it, but I am a firm believer that if they want to do it, its not for me to stop them or say they canāt. But I do feel I can voice my concerns, its not coming from a bad place.
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Do I want to see itā¦No,
Will I watch it coz Iām a sucker who canāt help themselves out of curiosityā¦of course I will!
I just hope theyāre both safe
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