You thought Steve Austin was a neurologist lol? He can barely string a sentence together
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I donāt know, I really liked his podcast and his network stuff. But yeah sounds like a moron in this.
I mean, heās great at interviewing those types of people because of the way he talks.
He will say stuff like āthat was one mean cat. So tell me what did you think about that time?ā
Like nothing about that screams hes some intelligent human being
I donāt think the point of this is to learn new stuff. I donāt think we are. I suspect the truth is itās aimed more non-wrestling fans to get an idea of this complicated and flawed individual.
For most of us who waste time on a wrestling board, we already know what heās all about. So other than maybe getting some Talking Heads and seeing if somebody says an interesting tidbit, itās rehashing stuff we already know.
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John Stossel got what he deserves
To me the most interesting reason to watch this is Vince McMahon himself.
Itās almost impossible that weāre ever gonna get him on camera again talking unless itās a trial that is publicized. This is probably the last time youāre ever gonna see him talking on a documentary style video. So in that sense, this is as good as itās gonna get.
One of the many unrelated topics on Billās latest pod.
A six episode documentary about a wrestling promoter aimed at non-wrestling fans instead of the wrestling fans who will actually watch it. Why does the wrestling community keep doing this to itself?
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Two not really spoiler-y thoughts so far:
Didnāt anybody tell Simmons after the Andre doc that Hoganās Wrestlemania III story is bullshit?
When a documentary first mentions Dr. George Zahorian, you will see footage of the Warlord within 30 seconds. Every damn time.
Weāll allow spoilers here.
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I know heās important to early vince, but man thereās too much Hogan in thisā¦
Ok, I watched the first episode.
First, I have no idea what I saw when I logged into Netflix this morning, because this wasnāt the actual first minute lol.
I was entertained by the first episode, but at the same time there wasnāt anything I really didnāt know outside of Vince sharing some personal moments between him and his father. If anyone on this board is looking for something that is going to shed new light on everything, the first episode will not do that. Weāll see where it goes.
I cringe every time I see the Montreal Screwjob footage
At this point, whenever the end of the world comes, there would still be stories and discussion of Montreal coming out after. 
Say what you want about Dave Meltzer but I thought he was fantastic in these episodes, just fact-checking the absurdities told in these. Thatās something I wish couldāve been in the āWho Killed WCWā series, having those outside voices who covered it.
It hurts my head how Tony Atlas is in this so much until I realized that he is one of the few WWF stars from the 80ās who is still alive 
. For sure though when you think of the WWF in the 80ās I think Tony Atlas is one of the last you think of.
Overall, it makes sense as a great series for a casual fan. For us who post on message boards this wasā¦lacking outside of some inside shots and footages. I think there were three standouts to me:
- Shane, as he is treated like Kendall Roy
- Dave dropping a casual reference of how he was ātalking to Vinceā because itās one of those āsecretsā of the industry (and I firmly believe he still has a way of communicating with Vince)
- The various clips of Vince with the women talent. Itās all sexual. I truly hope itās more safe for the women talent in 2024.
I have many other thoughts but itād wind up being a novel. Happy this existed and understand this likely will be the āmostā we get from Vince. My hopes? When he dies itās reveled that he kept an extensive set of journals or that he secretly did vlogs so we could et actual insight of Vince. Good or bad, heās very captivating and was the wizard behind the theater we love.
Just finished. Plenty of the criticism that Iāve seen has been fair, but I completely disagree that there is ānothing newā in these six or so hours. True, there were no big revelations, but Iāve never heard Vince say at least half of the stuff that he says in this doc. As guarded as he is, itās definitely the most open heās ever been.
Overall, Iād still call it a good and interesting watch. Glad I saw it, I wouldāve survived if I didnāt.
Oh and Vince is a terrible person. Bury him under the jail if heās found guilty.
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The series overall seems to suffer from pivoting in purpose during production. Maybe this is the other side of the coin for what we keep hearing that the team didnāt have wrestling knowledge going in. From the outside, many of the story beats (Wrestlemania, the Monday Night War, etc.) have the type of drama that appeals to a documentary filmmaker.
I found it interesting that Vince is a fairly open book for the first half, then as we approach stories that havenāt been as canonized by WWE documentaries he gets a bit more evasive. Specifically the Sable lawsuit jumped out at me as an example. He claimed to remember more details about Rita Chatterton than he did about Sable. I did appreciate the editing that immediately showed they made it part of Sableās return story. The lack of shame in telling the proposed Stephanie pregnancy angle is also revelatory and helps us see how Vince ultimately shares what he is proud of and conveniently forgets about what heās not proud of.
They managed to obtain the interview footage that they have, and itās been documented that they couldnāt really augment it to pivot to the topics that actually should be explored more in-depth. It feels like they had a choice to make, which is to still tell the story beats they had planned out before the 2022 reporting changed what could have been the focus of the story.
All told I can see Netflix pointing to this to say, in effect, hereās a primer on our new programming partner and also the one problematic person from that organization is gone. Not necessarily the truth, but good enough for their purposes.
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Iām only two episodes in, but this is exactly my thoughts. I donāt believe Vince has ever admitted to having sex with Rita Chatterton before is one example (at least Iāve never heard him say it) is one example.