The NJPW Thread


#163

Well NJPW :jp: does have agreements with ROH :us::canada:; CMLL :mexico:; & RevPro :uk:.

With the amount of talent that keeps working on MCW :australia: (Ospreay, Fale, Okada, Naito) hopefully one-day WE may get a partnership to NJPW. (Okada’s match from “November Rain” in on NJPW World).


#164

Nuff said…


#165

Bad ass. Can’t wait to see this match sometime.


#166

NJPW’s G1 USA Special is tonight / tomorrow, for those watching live will it be with English of Japanese commentary?

For myself it the English team is once again the duo of Ross & Barnett I’ll be listening to the Japanese commentary.


#167

I’ll probably catch the English commentary, I’m hoping Cody has a good showing against Kenny in the main event.


#168

"For the record, the ‘bump’ I took at ringside at #G1SanFrancisco was not storyline driven matter nor was it discussed.

I think I broke a rib.

Couldn’t put my roller bag in the overhead today after a sleepless Sat night."
@JRsBBQ

Wait, does this mean that Barnett went into business for himself?


#169

I was shocked anyone claimed this was a work - it made no sense as a work. Barnett dropped multiple F-bombs on AXS tv who was not prepared to sensor him. JR came back to the desk and was audibly disgusted and basically went into business for himself trashing the setup of the ringside area and mocking the ref and rules of countouts, etc. They closed the show by complaining about a go-home angle taking too long despite it being a year+ in the making.

It cannot be said enough how JR needs to be done with New Japan Pro Wrestilng, but I’ll go one further…if he doesn’t walk away on his own it becomes nothing more than a money-grab in which he is cashing checks from AXS despite audibly not liking the product he is calling.


#170

This was unprofessional to me. I was really feeling the angle but ross kept burying it complaining the post match was too long.

Barnett went on this rant about how this njpw isnt strong style but he did strong style in his njpw (when business was way down from now) then tried to spin it positively but sounded like a bitter old wrestler. The commentary actively hurts the product. Dominion had the finest english commentary of Japanese wrestking i ever heard… these AXS shows not so much.

I respect both men truly but their work is just not strong. Maybe they shoukd do retro reviews for axs. Let kelly tackle the new stuff.


#171

I understand why AXS want Ross on TV, since he’s still big name especially for older fans – but at this point it doesn’t seem worth it given how much he detracts from the product. From mispronunciations to lack of knowledge about angles and storylines it smacks of a complete lack of research and interest. Worse, he doesn’t seem to care and either lashes out or cracks jokes when he’s called out.
What happened with his injury is unfortunate and I could understand why that would affect him on this show, but he was terrible on the previous live shows.


#172

Don’t you think the same can be said for Kevin Kelly? For the older fans they remember him from WWE, and some ROH. I’ve always had positive memories with Kevin Kelly’s commentary back in the early days of Raw.

Hearing him when I started watching NJPW during WK11 it felt great. He knows the brand, he knows the talent and even plays well off of the heels.

I’ve thought recently, has anyone at AXS watched a NJPW broadcast and compared it to a previous AXS broadcast? If they did they’d see the difference someone like Kevin Kelly can make.

I just tuned JR and Barnett out during the Okada match. JR referred to Bushi as Sanada. Then didn’t call it out when Okada tried a Rainmaker on I think Naito - just got Barnett saying “Oh, he ducked a lariat”. They didn’t acknowledge the Stormbreaker which is such a unique looking move it couldn’t have been mistaken for anything standard.

A change is needed…I think AXS should check with @johnpollock see if he would be interested in taking over. Even on 3 hours sleep half drunk with a open knife wound, Mr. Pollock could muster more enthusiasm than JR.


#173

Kevin Kelly’s call of ZSJ win over Okada was nothing short of epic!

“He’s got em he’s got em 1 2 threeeeeeeeeee

Zack Sabre Jr has just defeated Kazuchika Okada”

“We both simultaneously kept out of our chairs when Chris Roberts hand hit the mat for the third time”

Talking about Okada as fan cheer him”
“He’s got 14 days to get his house in order. Before he climbs the Mount Everest of professional wrestling. The greatest test of professional wrestling endurance and skill there is - the G1 Climax

JESUS WHAT AN UPSET!”

Please all go back and watch this. Insane!!!


#174

From this morning’s G1 press conference, a beautiful soul at peace with himself:

Makes any NJPW card even better.


#175

To answer this question briefly : no. They want a recognizable face and voice and thats not Kevin Kelly. Don Callis doesnt even kook like the Jackal anymore. For years, the draw of AXS wasnt just the wrestling but the celebrity of the announcing from Mauro now to Ross. With wwe showing zero interest and (zero respect ) for JR I don’t see a change at AXS imminently.


#176

G1 Climax 28 is now LIVE on NJPW World, a few opening non tournament matches.


#177

caught up through the tag matches of 7/22 show. with a few days until the next show figured better to watch the tournament matches with fresh eyes. This has been the most fun wrestling has been in forever. Really like the Kelly/Romero combo. It seems that every match has purpose.

Been watching NJPW shows since the first Jericho match, and slowly catch on to previous feuds and crowd favorites. Appreciated Kelly bringing up the Naito/Takahasi history, as well as other past feuds that help catch me up to speed. The only confusing part of NJPW is Ref discretion and what constitutes a DQ. Other than that, NJPW is 5 star viewing.

NJPW shines in categories I hated about WWE: No Authority angles, The head booker jobs and puts others over strong, guys can wrestle in opening tags and main events, nobody is unbeatable, history matters, intelligence isn’t insulted.

There’s something that comes up almost every show that I don’t understand and would appreciate a little insight: how come the usually calm and chill Naito has ongoing issues with NJPW announce team? It makes sense for the heels (and my favorite, Suzuki) but isn’t Naito a top tier face?

Finally, just to share the interest, my 13 year old is pulling for Ibushi to win, my 11 year old (who just walked into NJPW during this tournament) pulling for Yano.


#178

another question for the brothers: how come some guys aren’t part of a stable? Elgin and Tanahashi come to mind. Seems like each stable would benefit from having either of them (and the others who tag with the Lions)


#179

Elgin is either in Taguchi Japan I think or has a rough association.

As for Naito, he’s kinda like an anti-hero at this point where the crowd will cheer for him but still does a lot of dick-ish things, like with the announcers.


#180

Great post @Crash that’s awesome your kids are into the tournament as well!

I’m not an authority on NJPW but I’ll try to help out here:
Tanahashi is the ACE of the company - their John Cena if you will, so no stable affiliation. He’s been used in so many different ways that an affiliation almost limits the use of a top tier guy who can make anyone. They use Liger similarly.
There is the group Taguchi Japan where non affiliated guys get slotted into for multi man tags that are common.

The history aspect of story telling is what really hooked me early. While it’s difficult at times to understand promos (the translator on the English version is fairly new) it is so easy to follow a guys track record vs another and how that adds importance or backstory to a match. Even just this tournament hearing records of guys facing off against each other in the G1 makes it clear who an underdog or favorite is.

Naito has been very anti English / US expansion in his promos. He’s positioned as opposite Kenny in the sense he doesn’t think the likes of American wrestlers are needed. It was those strong promos he cut about Jericho coming in for WK that led (and made) their feud later on so great. So to me him heeling on English commentary makes sense.


#181

thanks man. The cow palace show made a couple of lifers.


#182

Don’t suppose anyone’s heard any ticket news/rumours for the Long Beach show at the end of September?