Trump Claims to have Covid-19

I’d like to think that was achievable in our current climate…But I believe that none of this gets fixed until January at the earliest (assuming Biden wins). If Trump finds a way to win, we’re going to be stuck for a while. There’s no incentive for the architects of the mess to clean it up if they’re rewarded electorally.

Definitely some of the commentary around this has crossed the line, but if someone out there gains a bit of catharsis or peace from the Trump news (thinking in particular of a friend that lost her father to this)…So be it. Like I’m a pretty positive, glass-half-full kinda cat, but even I can understand why someone who has been abused, tormented, beaten down by this administration taking a bit of solace in the fact that for once this guy is feeling the consequences of his actions. It is what it is…

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Well that was already happening way before he contracted the Virus. It was his choice to give the people that perception of him. I bet he welcomed it. So I’m not going blame people for feeling the way they do. You reap what you sow.

I know Michael Moore is a polarizing figure - but he wrote this, and it should give people to think about a few things in regard to this…

Sorry for the length. Do we have spoiler tags around here to hide it?

So Now Trump Has Earned Your Trust? A Note of Covid Caution from Michael Moore…

There is one absolute truth about Trump: He is a consistent, absolute, unrelenting, fearless, and professional liar. A serial liar. A factually proven liar. How many lies now has the Washington Post proven in these four years? 25,000? A lie at least twice during every waking hour? Think of all the bad people you’ve known in your life. Even the worst ones you couldn’t say that about.

So why on earth would we believe him today? Has he earned your trust now? No. Yet, we’re decent enough to not want him to be sick, to wish him well, and maybe just this once give him the benefit of the doubt because why would he lie about this?

That’s not the question. The question we — and yes, I mean you, too, the media — the only question we really need to be asking is this: Why would Trump all of a sudden just start telling the truth?

All of you, my friends, have been saying for four years, “Trump’s a liar! Trump is a liar!” Why would you believe him now? He very well may have COVID-19. In fact, let’s assume he does. Of course he has it! Does that make him not Trump? I’m certain Mussolini came down with the flu one time. Pinochet and Franco would catch a cold every now and then. Margaret Thatcher must have had a migraine or two. None of them suddenly became nice or did good things - or started telling the truth - because they got sick. Jesse Helms with a runny nose was still Jesse Helms.

But Trump has a history of lying about his health. His longtime New York doctor, Dr. Bornstein, admitted a few years ago that Trump dictated his perfect “doctor’s letter” during the 2016 campaign. Then there was the White House doctor who said Trump could live “200 years!” What about his lying about that emergency trip to Walter Reed “to complete his physical?” Trump also has a history of lying about his opponents’ health (like when Hillary fell ill at the 9/11 remembrance ceremony, or what he’s now been saying about Biden’s health).

So we must be skeptical. We must always remain skeptical when it comes to Trump. He may have it. But it’s also possible he’s lying. That’s just a fact.

But why would he lie about this? What would he have to gain? I mean, it looks bad that he’s called it a hoax for seven months, and he totally mismanaged the government response — and now he has it? Doesn’t it look terrible that he’s spent months downplaying wearing masks, dismissing social distancing, holding large rallies filled with elderly, at-risk supporters and even killing his own supporters like Herman Cain? And doesn’t this go against his brand of always projecting (and exaggerating) his own strength, his health, his genetics, his virility? Yes. This is all true. He would not want to admit he‘s come down with a hoax.

But — he’s losing the election. And he knows it. It’s not 2016. He was hated in 2016, but he’s hated even more now. Millions of Americans are ON FIRE and on the verge of serving him up a major league ass-whooping and a record landslide defeat.

So he needs - badly - to totally change the conversation about this campaign.

And he just has.

Democrats, liberals, the media and others have always been wrong to simply treat him as a buffoon and a dummy and a jackass. Yes, he is all those things. But he’s also canny. He’s clever. He outfoxed Comey. He outfoxed Mueller. He outfoxed 20 Republicans in the GOP primary and then did the same to the Democrats, winning the White House despite receiving fewer votes than his opponent. He’s an evil genius and I raise the possibility of him lying about having COVID-19 to prepare us and counteract his game. He knows being sick tends to gain one sympathy. He’s not above weaponizing this.

He’s been lying about how soon a vaccine will be ready. What better way to hammer home that lie then by directing a saga in the final weeks before the election that culminates in the release of this “vaccine.”

The NY Times tax story was horrible for him. As was The Atlantic story about him calling American troops losers and suckers. There are a dozen more of these stories coming in October. Just last night, The New Yorker detailed how his campaign finance director (and Don Jr’s girlfriend) was fired from Fox News for…well…behaving like a typical Fox News host by sexually harassing her assistant and forcing Fox to pay a $4 million settlement to that assistant due to her behavior. And also, last night, there was CNN playing an audio recording of Melania talking shit about children separated from their parents at the border — AND talking shit about Christmas. Christmas!

These stories are about to be a daily occurrence. However, they may get less airtime and be less damaging since Trump and FLOTUS are now “sick” and supposed to be in our thoughts and prayers.

But most dangerously, HE MAY USE THIS TO PUSH FOR DELAYING/POSTPONING THE ELECTION. The constitution does not allow for this, but he doesn’t give a f*ck about the constitution. He and his thug Attorney General Barr have no shame and will stop at nothing to stay in power. He may even use this as an excuse for losing.

Then there’s this:

He may use his Covid as a pretext to drop out of the race and move Pence to the top of the ticket. Pence would temporarily become President, and then Pence could pre-emptively pardon Trump for all of his crimes.

Again, though, he may have COVID. He probably does. But never, ever, ever take him at his word and never, ever, ever underestimate his survival skills or the depths of his deception or his evil.

What can YOU do today? Make your plan to vote and stick to it. Question everything. And if you and I are finally convinced he has it, do NOT sit silent as he schemes how to use this illness for his benefit.

Finally, on a personal note: Stay alive Mr. President. Your exit from public life must happen in the right and decent way. You have many years to live. You have a child to raise. Grandchildren who need you. A base that loves you. And the families of nearly the quarter-million dead who might be alive today had you done your job, had you cared, had you not played politics with people’s lives. Over 200,000 lost souls — and YOU KNEW! You told Woodward in February it was a plague. 200,000 dead because of decisions you made, because you denigrated science and ignored the doctors.

I’m certain you’re listening to them now.

Covid must not remove you. That’s our job. With a pen and a ballot.

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This is so hard bc I absolutely believe we could have saved lives if we had a president who wasn’t a human fart back in March.

I’m trying to keep my thoughts pretty neutral on this but four more years of trump = more unnecessary suffering.

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Probably not good to actively wish for that on anyone but this is so complex.

Trump not being president almost certainly would have saved lives.

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Imagine if he gave Colby COVID. Possible

I’m really glad the original poster said claims. That’s a keyword. We will see how this plays out. Can’t trust anything that comes out of his mouth.

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Point scoring over anything is now a normal thing. Everyone’s tribal, everyone’s a hypocrite and everyone justifies their disgusting behaviour with “but they’re on the other side, they must be evil”.

All countries have these types of people but American politics seems like a cesspool all across the board. No wonder they have 2 terrible choices.

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Is it possible that he pull out of The Election now?

Could use this as a face saver?

Ya I hear you. I’ve always thought of you as one of the most rational and intelligent posters on this board and you are definitely glass half full (I feel I’m the same way) you make a lot of valid points here.

If you go to the comment sections of some of the articles out there though, some people are just awful.

Life tip

Never ever go to the comment section of any news article.

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Or YouTube lol, it’s just as bad.

It seems we’ve found our middle ground where we can agree. While I feel your January prediction may be a little ambitious (glass half full guy— I like that), I can certainly concur that we would all be better off with Trump out of office.

As for the latest update, Trump has apparently been moved to a local medical facility. Maybe it’s more serious than originally reported, or maybe it’s all just a ploy. I hate the conspiracy theory crap but I also can’t put it past the guy.

Same here, and if it was mostly anyone else I wouldn’t even think it. With Trump and an election a month away, I put nothing past him.

I don’t hold trump in high regard but I feel like this is true.

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Gun to my head, I agree. However I wouldn’t put it past him.

I can easily see a scenario where an adviser told him that he needed to do something to get out of the future debates, this would do it.

I also can see a scenario where an adviser told him he’s loosing in the polls, and that he needed to do something that would help him garner some good will with the swing voters. If I begin to see clips of Trump talking about how “WE are going to get through this together” or “I’m one of you, and I am in this fight with all of you” etc etc. I will really begin to question it.

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Everything you say actually sounds reasonable.

Depressing

Trump is a different animal all onto himself. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not thrilled about Joe Biden and as a Democrat my own party does piss me off at times, but don’t pretend like it’s equal. This guy is in his own league.

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This is possible, but at the same time Trump’s team definitely wanted COVID out of the headlines. Trump himself would not address COVID when asked by reporters. Now all top republicans are potentially infected. Kelly Anne Conway just said she’s got it and a bunch of GOP senators too.

If only there was something that could be used to cover the face and dramatically reduce the transmission of this virus.

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