Fine, I’ll take the bait.
I understand you are wanting to fight for equality, fairness, and a safe working environment. We all are on your side and agree with you 100%.
This is true, and I don’t think you will find someone on here who disagrees.
However, among all of the wanting and advocating for progress and better treatment of women in wrestling that you’ve done around here (in my time here, be it as an observer on the side or an active participant), you never seem to a.) provide anything positive or a positive perspective on things and b.) never make any suggestions on how to make or implement any positive improvements for a better tomorrow.
Part of being an activist for change is furthering positive growth toward your desired aims by speaking up and about the issues. However, the other side of that is having an informed take on how to move forward.
While racism and bigotry are generally learned behaviors, these actions casting a shadow on Rick Steiner’s son’s career in any way is unequivocally wrong, as there is no way to suggest these views of the father are entirely those of the son, save for the family connection. Correlation does not equal causation.
I would never want to be held accountable for the transgressions of my father, who is a bigot and addict himself. This incident should have nothing to do with the merger nor with anything going on creatively in that company, and to think or suggest it could or will be is living too inside the wrestling bubble.
I fear you speak but don’t read and consider the words of others, speaking but not engaging or (seemingly) actively engaging or considering what others have to say here on the forum. However, there is nothing about Rick Steiner being a bigot that is going to affect any wider public perception of this merger or his son’s creative push. Get outside of the wrestling bubble and social media, and these larger issues - while prevalent in the world and spoken about - aren’t at the forefront of concerns: they’re an afterthought. Money is at the front and is the priority.
As for the optics of the merger: baby, it’s profits over people in Capitalism! Period. Full stop. End story.
He who can make me (the investor) the most money is he who is in control. Whether they are walking pieces of human trash in charge or not.
I spoke about this in the other threads and in my recent long-read article on ethics and sportswashing, which I mentioned during my appearance on Post’s Drive to Survive reviews: putting my ethical stance on human rights violations on front street for everyone to know, which are inclusive of all violations of an agents corporeal being that creates harm. Don’t come at me until you’ve listened or read. I’m also not the one who has given economics all of the power and value in the world, so there is nothing to attack here.
None of this talk about toxic people, behaviors, or a company being run by sexual predators and spousal assaulters is going to have an impact on tv rights negotiations. The demographic of wrestling fans has a bigger impact on the negotiations - both for good (tv ratings) and bad (long-held beliefs from wider society and the perpetuation of stereotypes within the wrestling community affecting potential sponsorships (although that seems to be changing slightly)) - than any of these transgressions of the people in charge.
So it goes.
So, I do have a question for you, literally trying to pull something positive from your assessments and knowledges to contribute to the wider discourse of positive development and growth: understanding all the variables in play, how do you suggest fixing the problem of having sexual abusers and predators in power in the upcoming UFC/WWE merger? What do you suggest? How do you propose overtaking the “seemingly” global patriarchy we all live under to somehow make things in this situation fair and more safe for all, when, for the most part, most people don’t give a fuck?
I could take this a step further to a conversation about women’s wrestling as well, considering your consistent stance and always harsh criticism of women’s use in wrestling, in particular in AEW. Everytime I hear your name on Rewind-a-dynamite feedback, you are a predictable cliche and have some negative take on the women’s division, never suggesting anything that could bring forth the positive progress and development we all want and desire, save for “move them from the death spot.”
However, I’m not doing that, but want you to know something specific. While attempting to be a positive agent of change for equality in wrestling - which is excellent in and of itself, I’m not going to engage with you on that.
Why? You, and I mean you specifically, represent a toxic element of professional wrestling fandom to me (always on the side of virtue and equality, seemingly never giving credit where it’s due for progress, but always having a (justified in ways) negative take, while never providing anything to help or suggest a path toward progress). Making your displeasure in the situation at hand heard is only part of the equation toward progress.
I divorced professional wrestling - which hurt my heart and still does - because the relationship was abusive, and your voice was among the overarching toxic element that made me realize I couldn’t have pro wrestling in my life at all, save for Post’s podcasts (after a relationship that lasted over 30 years). You, dear Benjamin, are one of the toxic fans whose feedback literally made me realize I’ve got better things to do than love something I loved for most of my life, when the industry and people therein (inclusive) have never reciprocated at all.
Remember this, dear friend (and anyone else reading this): words have material consequences (DTS Season Five review, episode 4, or in the Post sportswashing video I’m in on YouTube (I presume this line got in there)). If it wasn’t for words posted online, there is a really good chance Hana Kimura is still with us, and transgender people wouldn’t doubt their pursuit and choices based on words said or spoken in public forums and end up in crisis but with @Alex_Patel and his capable caring hands.
Your words were among those that helped bring about an end to my enjoyment of pro-wrestling, just like Steiner’s words of hate were a horrible diversion on the pursuit of progress and equality in Rasslin’, and how words of hate helped facilitate the end of Hana Kimura. For every Giselle Shaw, Nyla Rose, or our gender-non-conforming sister Sonny Kiss, there are significantly more bigots in the world. And most of them have far more power and influence than you, me, or the three wrestlers I’ve listed.
The world is far less progressive, welcoming, and inclusive than you think it is. I’m speaking from experience as a transgender person in the world who deals with it every fucking day. People within progressive movements or in residence in academia live within their own bubbles of a more progressive world than we actually exist in.
In conclusion, it’s not like we can shine a light on positives while making the problems therein known at the same time to help move things forward and correct past issues for the future, right? Not like, as a credentialed historian, I can’t find copious examples of this in action or how it’s a pretty good way forward for society in general
Anyway, give me something positive to return to when I do return to answer a dm or two. Tell me how you fix these issues that aren’t reductive and as simple as “fire them, replace them with x,y,z.” It’s clearly a bigger problem than that.
How do you change people’s discriminatory beliefs? Education and providing a road map to progress. Right now, you just shout your displeasure. Use your voice and moral position to speak for a path to progress rather than just shout your displeasure.
And while I’ve had fun coming back to the forum after a show prompted me to reach out to John and Wai about something serious, I’m out. We good here. This is a reminder of what I don’t need in my life.
Benjamin, keep fighting the good fight, but bring something positive and a path toward the better. Anything is often better than nothing. You never know when your words will have an actual positive material consequence on another and lead to change. Because, as I said, words have material consequences, good and bad.
And if you listened/watched and read, you’d get the sincerity of my character, that I mean no harm, and I want the best for all - based on ethics, not morals - believing we can change for the better. I’ll step away from the keyboard and go back to clicking now.
Keep making your voice heard but bring some positivity and a path forward toward progress in your disgruntled messages, with intentions of progress at heart. Maybe your words will have more positive material consequences rather than any negative consequences.
And with that, I’ll actually see y’all on the other side! Goodbye, and keep shining a light on the negative issues in wrestling to make a better tomorrow.
Racey Jaycee - Your transgender friend going back to the shadows.