Again, don’t want to get into a debate over piracy. But stealing is stealing, regardless of what somebody or an organization behind it, is worth. Whether they are billionaires, or an independent promotion just trying to get by.
Also, I understand people wanting to watch things… But just like a movie somebody justifies downloading from a torrent - people are not “entitled” to watch these things, just because they want them.
As well, there has never been so much free to cheap content out there, that people can fill their time with those options if they’re really starved for entertainment.
I know I’m on the unpopular side of this discussion, so I’m not looking to debate. That’s my opinion on the matter though.
In all seriousness, I respect your opinion and I cant say anything you are saying is wrong. It just doesn’t bother me if someone does it during these times.
“Nefarious Means Cable” has a long & storied history in the world of sports & entertainment (I say that as someone who has an unnamed uncle who used to get the Tyson fights via NFC’s predecessor, the black box).
It’s definitely wrong, but I do think the conversation around it does speak to the current inefficiency of AEW’s PPV model, IMO. I think lowering their prices by $10-15, or doing some sort of bundle (buy access to all of the year’s PPVs for $100-$150) would drastically improve their potential reach (especially in the midst of a pandemic that has wrecked the U.S. economy).
That being said…They had my $50 the minute they booked that “Man Called Sting”…Lol!
Oh, not disagreeing that it would be beneficial for them to lower their price point. However, anybody who is claiming they’re pirating the show as a way of making a stance against their prices, are frankly, full of shit.
People who are going to pirate stuff will do regardless of price. People illegally stream WWE PPVs every month regardless of the fact that they will soon be accessible for $5 a month in the US.
And it’s that accessibility that makes the difference to me in this day and age. As a kid, I “listened” to many a PPV on scramble-vision, since I couldn’t afford them. I also deeply appreciated those friends with “nefarious means” black boxes who would tape me a copy of the show now and then… But I was also in a country with very limited access to keep up with many of the products. Now, you’re literally flooded with cheap and free content.
I agree. If you don’t want to pay the money then don’t watch it. Less buys and they will get the message. It’s not an excuse to steal it. Imagine using this logic with a Louis Vuitton or a Corvette
I don’t watch AEW, so I’m clearly not watching the PPV. That said, there is nothing any wrestling company can put on a PPV that will get me to pay $50-$60. Unfair as it might be, I judge it based on other streaming services. $60 will soon get me and entire year of Peacock, or damn near a year of Disney+. A 3-4 hour PPV just does not have the same value.
Same here for the most part. I watch AEW, but I dont normally watch their PPV’s for this exact reason.
As soon as WWE changed their model to the network, fans pretty much instantly became conditioned to expecting much more “content” for $60 then a 3 hour show. I think AEW will eventually go the direction of WWE, and once they build up their name to the next level that they will eventually team with a streaming service. Hopefully for personal reasons (ie. I have it) its Netflix.
That would be cool, I do have Crave which I think covers HBO max (I watched the Flight Attendant which is an HBO Max show), so I would personally love that as well.
Well 50 dollars a show is like 200 a year as you said. Of that they get maybe 60 revenue split so 120 bucks a year (or 10 a month) and they sell about 100k a show so if the same people buy all 4 that’s 12 mill.
As for 10 bucks a month
So if they charged 10 bucks a month for a streaming service they would need more than 100k subscribers to beat their current revenue. This seems very low given WWE has like 1.5 million
If they sold it WWE got 250 million a year. If they get 10 percent of that it’s 25 million.
So either way if they sell or start their own they should beat what they currently do on the PPV market for revenue
Spot on. PPV model makes sense for certain companies (ie. boxing/ufc), but for wrestling post WWE network, wrestling companies will make more if they get a lucrative offer from a streaming service. Say what you want about WWE from a morality perspective or A creative perspective, but nobody can criticize them for not knowing how to make money.
I ordered it. Another $50 through B/R Live. Only AEW PPV I didn’t order was Double or Nothing 2020 because I didn’t want to buy a full-priced PPV so early the pandemic. Missed the Stadium Stampede because of that, but hey, I saw the replay is only $15!
My word of the day is Trepidation, as now that we know Sting’s match is in the can, my biggest worry is the main event. I totally get the need to have a big blow off for Omega vs. Moxley, but this big? We knew they could get plenty violent without barbed wire and explosives. Last Man Standing would have sufficed for me. So I do hope it’s the illusion of ultraviolence.
Enjoy. And I think that’s fair. The fact thrive hyped something so huge means they’ve risked a lot of goodwill with fans. If they burn them, that’s on the company 100%.
The wrestler who decided to be a female 2021 Honma has me back on the fence.
BTW, they really called the exploding barbed wire death match ring the “extermination chamber”? Have they ever googled what comes up first for that phrase?
