Kind of interesting coming from Bret considering what he said last time he was asked about these allegations. Have you ever heard him talk about Rita C?
I have zero problem with reporters being critical of WWE, but he works for a website that you yourself said was clickbait and garbage, and all he does is rip into WWE, which right now is justified, but in the past has come off IMO as a bit immature.
I wonât say heâs as bad as Hausman after that shit show yesterday, but letâs not Pretend hes John or anything.
Her story is very sad, and I do believe that Vince did that. I always felt there was something creepy about a 60 year old man whoâs also the head writer always writing storylines where heâs making out with woman in their 20s for âstorylineâ.
While WrestligInc isnât the best of sites - it changed ownership from Raj in the last year or two - and has made an honest effort to seem more of an aggregator than anything harmful.
Came across this segment on Tik Tok. The fact that Vince wrote this, while he was doing what he was doing is just insane to me. With many wrestlers they say the on screen persona is their real selves turned up a notch. With Vince, its scary to say that it seems his on screen self was essentially the same.
Absolutely heartbreaking stuff here.
Again, the idea that this is isolated to one or two people inside the company is naive.
https://twitter.com/NewsNation/status/1757990442497405394?t=25rXGRjIK4yIeUaX9KvfLQ&s=19
I donât know how to feel about the Ashley stuff - my heart breaks for her and her family but at the same time I know she retracted it all and sent an apology to the WWE didnt she?
How do you reconcile that I guess to know whatâs what in this case
This contains parts of her retraction. It reads to me like somebody who just wants to be accepted back, in the only place she could make a living at a certain level.
Nothing about people like Paul Londonâs statements, or statements in the above clip, lead me to doubt the truth of the story and accusations.
The fact John Laurinaitisâs lawyer has acknowledged that this was a known fact within the company at an executive level, seems to speak to truth of the story.
The NCIS actually did an investigation into this as well.
Iâd strongly advise you to listen to John and Brandonâs episode from yesterday, with Tim Marchman, who has been extensively covering this story.
I did â I know I agree and I feel really bad. But like I have a hard time reconciling why she did that and tried to retract everything and sent the apology. Like for me that really makes it difficult to be 100% sure about what happened.
Laurenitisâ camp corroborating the fact that she reported this while she was employed really seals it for me. I could entertain the idea of her fabricating a story for a lawsuit after her dismissal but I donât see why sheâd make it up while employed by the company.
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You both make valid points. I have a very hard time morally discussing the Ashley situation because sadly she is no longer around to defend herself or articulate her stance on anything.
When someone retracts their entire story, who am I to say her retraction doesnât count and speak for her. At the same time, its definitely odd that she would say what she said if it didnât happen, and given all the payouts and what we now know about Vince, id be lying if I didnt say the retraction was suspicious.
IMO her family has gone through the ringer as it is, and 5 years later Iâm sure the last thing they want is for her to become a headline for clicks and online discussion. Unless something comes from the mouth of her immediate family, Iâm going to step to the side on this one and leave the girl alone. There are sadly plenty of other stories that the media and fans can focus on.
Just out of curiosity, where has anybody seen that she retracted her claims of sexual abuse?
Or the mention of her family wanting it dropped?
The only things she seems to have written in that letter was she was sorry for being involved in a lawsuit against WWE.
Agree with everything you are saying. To add to that, unfortunately we live in a world with no privacy and a sexual assault case goes from being a road to justice and begins to turn into a news story and a source of judgement and discussion. Articles are written about you, IG posts are made about you, TikTok videos are made about you, online discussion begins about you. Its just awful across the board as on top of the trauma you went through, now you become source for ridicule and discussion when most victims just want privacy and justice.
I am not going to speculate on the intentions of a women who committed suicide 5 years ago. I dont know what she wanted, and Ill never find out. I am no longer going to talk about her case in particular for the reasons I already stated.
Fair enough. I respect your stance.
Hereâs the interview with Ashleyâs close friend Cara Pipia on NewsNation. Hearing this makes me sick. This is why I donât look at the military like its some group of real life heros. End of the day, this is a common occurrence with military people doing it not just to people whose country they invade but even to the citizens its supposed to be âprotectingâ while theyâre assaulting women and children. And hearing that Vince, Stephanie and other execs pressured her to keep quiet.
