Vince McMahon accused of Sex Trafficking / Resignation 🧵

[kliq]

Seems like a “newz” reporter to me. If you go on Twitter and search for something that is stupid, you will always eventually find it.

[MarkP]

McMahon TKO Resignation Invites WWE Scrutiny

[kliq]

Is this you actually agreeing with me?

The last paragraph says:

By most accounts, WWE remains as popular as ever and is poised to succeed. Next year, Netflix will stream WWE Raw to subscribers in the streaming service’s new foray into live sports. To the extent McMahon’s issues don’t cause TKO’s stock price to drop, the harder it would be to prove WWE and TKO failed to meet duties to stockholders.

This is exactly what I think will happen, I think TKO will want to make as little noise as possible and will only “tear it down” if they are forced to likely due to something involved with the stock dropping.

[MarkP]

I am more of the mindset that TKO is going to want to avoid embarrassment. As also stated in the article…

But if Grant’s lawsuit advances, pretrial discovery could expose WWE leaders and former leaders to damaging revelations via testimony and publication of old emails and texts. If even some of Grant’s historical retelling is accurate, it would suggest McMahon felt empowered by WWE to treat her—and perhaps other women—in degrading and abusive ways, without worry of ever being held accountable.

Simply hoping things will get resolved and nobody else will look bad, seems like a very risky tactic to take.

[kliq]

I never said nobody else will look bad. I said many times that I believe the old guard will likely all “retire” or slowly be let go. I don’t think people like Nick Khan or Hunter who are mainstay figures will be let go if I’m being 100% honest unless they somehow are directly involved in sexual assault. That’s just how I feel things play out.

My comments are also in reference to things like the Randy Orton article you posted, as I think implying people like Randy Orton will be let go because of a story on a podcast that 15 years ago he grabbed his balls and then shook people’s hands is a bit silly as well. Not defending his behaviour by any stretch, but I don’t think they are going to burn it to the ground and look into things like that today.

[xaaronx]

I’ve only recently heard about this dude, but just to clarify he doesn’t “get articles in Forbes.” He posts to a contributor platform on Forbes.com that basically anyone can post to, it’s basically a blog hosting service. He is not associated with the actual Forbes Magazine. It’s obviously a manuever by him to be taken more seriously than he should be.

[xaaronx]

Also props to @MarkP for being a great aggregator

[MarkP]

I just don’t understand how you or anyone can differentiate between an “old guard” but believe Paul Lesveque isn’t included in that.

Bruce Prichard was out of that company from 2008 until 2018… Meanwhile Paul Lesveque was Vince’s right hand man.

Look, the only McMahon I can see having a position in the company thanks to their lineage after all this is said and done, would be Shane. He walked away multiple times and it’s rare you hear anything negative about him. He’s probably the most clean family member for professional purposes.

[MarkP]

Doing my best. Haha

[kliq]

We’ve already had this discussion, on Saturday you said to me:

@MarkP

Again, the mental gymnastics being performed by many over the last 24 hours is staggering.

How would anybody not see Triple H, Vince’s son in law, and by all accounts, one of his right hand men, as a Vince guy, is absurd.

We can agree nobody should lose their jobs who aren’t guilty.

Paul, Shawn, Taker, Cena, Brock, etc, are all guys who I think most would agree are “Vince guys”. It’s disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

I don’t want to go in circles, but in fairness maybe you missed my response. Here is what I said:

@kliq

Ok fair enough. I thought you were taking a shot at me, if not, I apologize.

For the record, I don’t know if the rumours are 100% true of the internal struggle. I admit that. If I had to differentiate, I’d say that the internal struggle has been reported by many in the wrestling media, and Vince’s actions (firing Regal, gutting NXT, essentially kicking Hunter out when he almost died etc. seem to play to that narrative) if it was just reported by the Haussmans of the world I would be skeptical, but it was by the Metzers etc. of the world. A court filling is written by one legal team, I am not saying what that legal team is saying is false, I am saying deeper investigation needs to take place as the TKO higher ups can’t just look at a court filling and say “end of story, we know what we need to know”. Even the victim doesn’t necessarily know who knew what behind the scenes

Maybe I am naive, but from everything I have read about Hunter and heard from people who know him well is that nothing about him makes me think he is the kind of guy that would rape women or sit back as someone else was raping them. He did vote for Vince to be brought back, but again that was after Vince fired half the board and forced himself back. He was coming back regardless of what anyone said or did.

Now as far as Vince goes, not even a little surprised. A couple years ago maybe, not in 2024. I feel like I am a broken record, but this is why I want an investigation. If hunter was guilty, get him out, but I am not going to go after a guy without more proof and a proper investigation.

This is what is supposed to separate us here in North America from places like Saudi Arabia. When someone is accused of something there is something called due process. Over there, the person with power just makes a unilateral decision not caring about any type of investigation or facts. This is just one of many issues many of us have with that way of thinking and why many of us are not happy WWE is working with them. I didn’t make a mistake last night in what I brought up the Saudi’s……if people believe that due process should exist over there, you should believe it it here as well and this idea of trial by twitter is gross to me.

So to be abundantly clear, I AM NOT saying let anyone off the hook, I am saying to do a proper investigation by a third party and get rid of those proven to be involved. Just blindly firing people is a knee jerk reaction and is something companies do when trying to garner positive PR

[TheBenjamin]

TKO doesn’t any of this mess around. The TV deals are all done. There is no need for any of the old guard. I think they go for a complete clean sweep shortly after Mania.

[xaaronx]

This is a key point in this. If I’m trying to strike a deal with someone, I don’t offer them a whole case of Dr. Pepper unless I know they’re a big fan of Dr. Pepper. The fact that Vince knew enough that this proposition of sex would be a positive in negotiating is concerning.

[Alex_Patel]

For all of the sordid details and disgusting things he did to me the most shocking thing is that he was so egotistical that he wouldn’t pay the $2 million that would’ve made all this go away.

[RocketKing]

Overall, it’s a good thing that Vince and anybody else who was involved will hopefully get what they deserve (say it with me now: under the jail) now that this has been made public.

But yeah, the guy could have kept this quiet with an amount of money he probably has in his house in cash right now, and he didn’t do it. Quite the window in how infallible Vince thinks he is.

[MarkP]

He’s been throwing money at these sort of things for decades. It was bound to catch up to him sooner than later.

[kliq]

Ya this shocks me. For a billionaire to agree to pay 3mil for something like this to go away, and do a half measure of paying only 1mil, it’s absolutely baffling and stupid.

[MarkP]

So the allegation as to why he stopped paying is because Vince believed that she had broken the NDA by the original WSJ story that lead to his first “retirement”.

[MarkP]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/29/media/vince-mcmahon-wwe-risk/index.html

[Alex_Patel]

Yet he knew she had even more ammo she could unleash and still thought he shouldn’t bc some minor part was leaked huh

Some genius

[kliq]

I mean, I’m glad he stopped paying because it led to the stuff coming out, but what a fucking idiot.